Urgent Alert from REAL Women of Canada Re: Bill C-279 – Transgender Bill

Bill C-279 – TRANSGENDER BILL
SECOND READING AND VOTE ON JUNE 6, 2012
Fax, email or phone your MP and Minister of Justice to oppose Bill C-279
with or without amendments


 On Wednesday, June 6, 2012, the House of Commons will resume the second reading and vote of the motion that Bill C-279, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code (gender identity and gender expression) be referred to a committee.

 

Bill C-279 proposes to add gender identity and gender expression as prohibited grounds of discrimination in both the Human Rights Act and the hate crime provisions in the Criminal Code.

 

It is a Private Member’s Bill sponsored by NDP MP Randall Garrison (Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca) and Liberal MP Hedy Fry (Vancouver East). During second reading on June 1, 2012, in his plea for support to get the bill moving to committee, Mr. Garrison proposed to accept two amendments to the Bill. He stated:

 

If we can get support at second reading to get the bill to committee in the vote next Wednesday, we on this side will support amendments to do two things. We will support an amendment to remove the term “gender expression” from the bill, and we will support an amendment to add a definition for “gender identity” to the bill.

 

From other comments made during the June 1st second reading, it seems that “gender expression” is part of “gender identity” so that this concept will likely still be protected under Bill C -279 even if it is removed. NDP MP Philip Toone (Gaspésie—Îles-de-la-Madeleine, NDP) stated:

 

Gender identity is an individual’s self-conception as male or female, both or neither, as distinguished from one’s birth-assigned sex.”

 

“Gender expression is how a person’s gender identity is communicated to others through emphasizing, de-emphasizing or changing behaviour, dress, speech and/or mannerisms.”

 

 

Please ASAP fax, email or phone your MP to ask that he or she oppose Bill C-279, with or without amendments. The major effect of this bill is that transgendered, transsexual and sexually confused individuals will be given full protection re employment, services, housing, etc in public institutions under federal jurisdiction. These behaviors will be “normalized”, accepted and protected. All Canadians are already equal before and under the law. Bill C-279 is not necessary.

 

The Hon Rob Nicholson, Minister of Justice: Tel 613-995-1547, Fax 613- 992-7910

Email: rob.nicholson@parl.gc.ca

 

Your MP: Contact information at:

http://www.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/MainMPsCompleteList.aspx?TimePeriod=Current&Language=E


10 thoughts on “Urgent Alert from REAL Women of Canada Re: Bill C-279 – Transgender Bill

  1. British Columbia and fellow Canadian citizens be careful what you allow to be legalized, because it starts to be imposed on innocent impressionable schoolchildren from Kindergarten as a human right and social justice, by Government decree and Court enforcement. In British Columbia The Liberal and N.D.P. Provincial Parties are the only ones our citizens seem to love. These Parties have allowed homosexuality to be legislated and normalized from Kindergarten to formerly innocent schoolchildren as a human right and social justice. What kind of citizens vote for these? Objective thinking and common sense seem to be idea’s of the past to BC citizens, but some are now waking up and coming to their senses.

    In its December 20,2005 decision a few days before Christmas, The Supreme Court of Canada legalized a type of business activity previously restricted by Canadian Law, overturning two previous Court of Appeal decisions that had ruled group-sex clubs qualified as bawdy houses violating community decency standards and were therefore illegal.

    Now under Canadian Parliamentary and Supreme Court Of Canada Law consenting 14 year old’s are considered consenting adults as a Human Right ,and Social Justice. The Courts controversial decision has made Canada a legal sex trafficking playground for pedophiles, and every kind of sexual predator.

    Supreme Court Of Canada Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin was joined by Justices Major, Binnie, Deschamps, Fish, Abella and Charron in the sex-club decision.
    Dissenting Justices Michael Bastarache, and Louis LeBel, said the high court’s ruling,” strips of all relevance The Social Values that the Canadian community as a whole believes should be protected,” according to the Globe and Mail newspaper.

    Bill C313 to raise the age of sex consent was defeated 167 to 99 on September 28, 2005. 90 Conservatives voted to raise the age of sex consent, and of the rest of the POLITICAL PARTIES IN CANADA PUT TOGETHER ONLY 9 MEMBERS VOTED TO RAISE THE AGE OF SEX CONSENT. How our MP’s voted was on the website http://www.parl.gc.ca

    Social Conservatives have to unite and the liberal-minded change their minds, and join us as some already have by looking at the consequences of their political choices on Canadian children and society.

    From 2005 to 2008 Concerned Parents and Citizens united politically to force Parliament in 2008 to pass a Bill into Canadian Law raising the age of sex consent in Canada, thus ending this rotten Parliamentary legislation and Canadian Supreme Court Law. This is Democracy in action.The Canadian citizens own it and are responsible to keep Politicians, Judges and Education Establishments accountable to the citizens who pay them.
    We published the names of The Politicians and Supreme Court Of Canada Justices who Legalized this perversion as a Canadian Human Right and Social Justice, and then asked Canadian Citizens if this is the kind of Democratic Canada they wanted? Between 2005 to 2008 Concerned Canadian Citizens from all faiths and agnostics politically united to defeat rotten Legislation and Supreme Court Of Canada Law. Our children applauded us as we accomplished our goal. If you want we can politically unite and do it again? Of all Social Engines the School is the most efficacious. Without the proper moral instruction civilized man is turned back almost into a savage.
    Bill C-279 The Transgender Bill goes to second reading and vote Wednesday June 6, 2012, and when and if you Canadian citizens allow it to become Canadian Law it adds Gender Identity, and Gender Expression to The Canadian Human Rights Act, thereby allowing the legal access by human right, and social justice for men to use women’s public dressing and washrooms. This legal access is what sexual predators so desire. This puts Canadian women and children at great risk. What kind of democratic citizens allow this?

  2. How DARE you tell people what they can and cannot identify as, and that what they feel is wrong! This is one of the most ignorant posts I’ve read all day.

    Get off your high horse and stop being so self-righteous. Transpeople and other gender variant people have zero affect on your life. This bill will have zero affect on your life. If you don’t like the idea of transgenderism, fine, but don’t you DARE shove your ignorant sense of morality down the throats of other people who are much more well informed than you.

    Urge Canadian representatives to vote YES for equality of ALL people, because the law should be blind to gender expression/identity too!

    “Real” women. You /disgust/ me. You realize these people risk losing their friends, family, jobs, and living space for their lifestyle? You think the transgender suicide rate is at 40% because they’re “making it up”??

    [The comment ends with an obscenity deleted by the BCPTL editor.]

  3. Well, K, it is interesting that in the same post where you say, “How dare you tell people . . . that what they feel is wrong,” you tell REAL Women that what they feel is wrong. And while telling people not to be self-rightous, you indulge in the equivalent of a self-righteous rant.
    Perhaps you might consider whether gender expression just might affect others if certain forms of gender expression take place in public. Gender identity might indeed affect others if, for example, a male insisted on a female identity and sought the right to use a woman’s washroom.
    We certainly encourage rational discussion, but ranting at others, expressing your disgust for them, and uttering obscenities that express your contempt for them hardly fits into the category of rational discussion.

  4. Sorry ‘K’ there does not need to be a new bill. People will identify the way they want..black, white, gay, straight, transgender, wiccan, Jew…whatever. I agree having a ‘law or bill for a special group creates unnecessary changes for others who do not want to live with others views forcing them to embrace their ideology. This is about special privileges and making society change…that is wrong. I feel sorry for canada and all the changes being made..one day we shall all be accountable, some more so than others.

  5. Real Women?

    Seriously, there is NOTHING about you, that would set you apart to make you real, and others not real. That is pure ignorance.

    You may have typical characteristics of most women, but not all women.
    There are men that have the same physical sexual characteristics as all typical women amongst yourselves, thus disproving any claim as to your being more real as women than those that are atypical in their sexual characteristics.

    So called ‘trans’ labelled women, are women. They may be atypical in their characteristics for some women, rather than like most typical women, but they are women nevertheless. The only thing constant, and consistent amongst all real women is their gender identity, and NOTHING ELSE. This is what science is slowly revealing, and many medical doctors have known for quite awhile, as well as suspect, that a person’s anatomical sex, is in fact INDEPENDENT from Gender Identity completely.

    The greatest flaw in current educational systems, is the perpetuation and promotion of inaccurate, imprecise, ambiguous understanding of the differences in how sex is developed, it only teaches the natural typical case, and excludes natural atypical cases, as well as how gender identity emerges in childhood surfacing well after birth, not before birth. And it does not help when the medical doctors who do know better, remain silent on what the already know, that the majority of lay persons SHOULD know, but were NOT taught at all about the very specifics of BRAIN Gender Identity, and Non-Genderable SEX Anatomy.

    The use of ‘Trans’ is an unfortunate misnomer of what turns out to be natural atypicality, rather than something pathologized as delusional/deranged/perverted/defective/deformed/mistake/evil as you would make it out to be.

    What medical science has uncovered for a long time now, is that all humans are endowed fully with a DUAL set of ‘full starter kits’ of precursor SEX anatomical parts, so that ultimately, every individual, has the developmental capacity to actually grow in BOTH of the two sex outcomes we commonly see at birth, plus the less common intersex outcome, which is simply a partial/incomplete development of BOTH systems, rather than just one half or the other half.

    Everyone has BOTH ‘sex’ precursor system, known as the TWO PAIRS of Nephric Duct Systems, it is a fully human endowment, as well as mammalian:

    1) YOUR very own Wolffian (Meso)-Nephric Ducts (a pair)
    2) YOUR very own Müllerian (Parameso)-Nephric Ducts (another pair)

    I have it, you have it, they have it, everyone has it, both your parents each have both pairs, just as your natural offspring have both pairs, your sons have both, and your daughters have both. They get it from you, because it is a HUMAN TRAIT to have BOTH PRECURSOR SEX PARTS.

    YOUR body, has the DUAL-POTENTIAL to develop and grow EITHER systems, depending on a ‘hormonal’ signal to ‘please grow’, but it also must include the appropriate ‘hormonal’ receptors to be sensitive to respond, and thus ‘yes-okay-i-hear-you-i-will-now-grow’. WHAT GROWS???

    1) YOUR very own Wolffian paired half, COULD grow into YOUR PENIS-PROSTATE. If this half is developed, the other half is INHIBITED, thus it experiences Müllerian APOPTOSIS, and disappears physically.

    2) YOUR very own Müllerian paired half, COULD grow into YOUR VAGINA-UTERUS. If this half is developed, the other half is BYPASSED, and it experiences Wolffian APOPTOSIS, and disappears physically.

    3) YOUR very own Müllerian-Wolffian pairs of both halves, COULD have also grown simultaneously, into a partial intermix of INCOMPLETE Penis-Prostate-Vagina-Uterus, and thus not formed typically like 1 and 2, so then, YOU, would be Intersexed, with a partial mixture of both halves of YOUR very own DUAL-POTENTIAL Sex Systems (Plural, not Singular).

    Additionally:

    4) YOUR very own DUAL-POTENTIAL GONADS, if hormonally ‘signaled’ in a similar, but different fashion, can, in fact develop down one of two possible paths fully ENDOWED by everyone:

    a) YOUR very own GONADS, if YOUR very own Wolffian half was going down the path to being a PENIS-PROSTATE, then, your GONADS would develop ‘usually’ in parallel, to becoming TESTES, instead of OVARIES.
    b) YOUR very own GONADS, if YOUR very own Müllerian half was going down the path to being a VAGINA-UTERUS, then, your GONADS would develop ‘usually’ in parallel, to becoming OVARIES, instead of TESTES.
    c) YOUR very own GONADS, if BOTH of your own Müllerian half AND Wolffian have end up developing simultaneously, and partially, then your GONADS would most likely develop ‘usually’ in parallel, to becoming OVO-TESTES.

    5) The WHOLE HUMAN BODY, is actually FULLY ENDOWED to have the FULL CAPACITY of UTILIZING its DUAL-POTENTIAL to grow EITHER the Testosterone half MORE than the Estrogen half, or vice-a-versa; and it also depends on the peculiar one-sided TRAIT of variably diverse, amongst individuals, the SENSITIVITY TRAIT to Testosterone itself, so it can ‘receive to respond’ to hormonal signals. This means, just the mere presence of high levels of sex hormones is NOT what causes a cell to go ahead to grow, but must INCLUDE a receptor (which everyone has abundantly) that is ‘sensitive’ to ‘hearing’ the signal chemically. Only when BOTH are true, does the cell respond to Testosterone, not just by the quantity level of presence alone.

    THUS, YOUR very own body:
    a) If sufficient Testosterone is supplied high enough at the right time and with the appropriate SENSITIVITY, it will grow a Wolffian (Penile) Sexed body, which is INDEPENDENT of GENDER IDENTITY OUTCOME (see below, why)
    b) If insufficient Testosterone is supplied high enough at the right time and with the appropriate SENSITIVITY, it will grow a Wolffian (Penile) Sexed body, which is INDEPENDENT of GENDER IDENTITY OUTCOME (see below, why)

    ADDITIONALLY, and this is relatively new compared to the above:

    6) Medical science also is finding out, not only are humans DUAL-SEX POTENTIAL for FULL Primary Sexual Characteristics, and DUAL-BODY POTENTIAL for FULL Secondary Sexual Characteristics, BUT ALSO, the BRAIN has the SAME KIND of DUAL-POTENTIAL, due to EVERYONE having ALL SEX HORMONE RECEPTORS in the BRAIN, so IF given the CHANCE hormonal ‘signal’ to grow according to HORMONAL LEVELS (this is a CHANCE occurrence, NOT a TRAIT) plus HORMONAL RECEPTOR NUMBERS (numbers is a variable TRAIT) plus TESTOSTERONE SENSITIVITY (Sensitivity is a variable TRAIT),

    THEN:
    a) If your brain experiences a CONSTANT HIGH level of Testosterone (without interruption by STRESS, which can lower the level), then YOUR brain COULD have gone down the path to having a MALE BRAIN GENDER IDENTITY.
    b) If your brain experiences a CONSTANT ABSENCE (or interrupted by STRESS, which can LOWER significantly) of the level of Testosterone , then YOUR brain COULD have gone down the path to having a FEMALE BRAIN GENDER IDENTITY.
    c) If your brain experiences a CONSTANT level that is mid-way in between 6a and 6b, then you end up with an in between NEUTROIS Brain Gender Identity, that is INTERGENDER between 6a and 6b.

    Given the possibility that hormone levels can be VARIED due to CONDITIONS, and not just by TRAIT alone, gives rise to the LESS COMMON, but NATURAL outcome that is ATYPICAL:

    Naturally Developed Emergent GENDER IDENTITY (Female/Male/Neutrois Intergender) that is ATYPICAL for the developed BIRTH SEX (Müllerian Sex/Wolffian Sex/Müllerian-Wolffian Intersex), rather than TYPICAL, which is more common, and due to higher visibility of what happens more often, the incorrect appearance that ‘sex=gender’, when in fact it isn’t the case at all, except if only counting the typical, and ignoring the real atypical.

    In whole, REAL GENDER, thus is in the BRAIN, and EMERGES AFTER BIRTH, at which point it finalizes-for-life, and NOTHING, NO HORMONES can alter it. While ones SEX developed at BIRTH, or sometimes later beyond PUBERTY, is INDEPENDENT from REAL Brain Gender Identity.

    Who are the so called misnamed ‘trans’ people? They are the natural ATYPICAL combination of Sex+Gender.

    In SUMMARY:
    Listed, as follows, are both Atypical as well as Typical developmental outcomes of SEX and Brain Gender Identity (BGI)[Real Gender]:

    MOST Wolffians (Wolffian Sexed=Penile Sexed) Emerge with MALE BGI.
    SOME Wolffians (Wolffian Sexed=Penile Sexed) Emerge with FEMALE BGI.
    SOME Wolffians (Wolffian Sexed=Penile Sexed) Emerge with Neutrois BGI.

    MOST Müllerians (Müllerian Sexed=Vaginal Sexed) Emerge with FEMALE BGI.
    SOME Müllerians (Müllerian Sexed=Vaginal Sexed) Emerge with MALE BGI.
    SOME Müllerians (Müllerian Sexed=Vaginal Sexed) Emerge with Neutrois BGI.

    SOME Müllerian-Wolffians (Intersex with both halves) Emerge with FEMALE BGI.
    SOME Müllerian-Wolffians (Intersex with both halves) Emerge with MALE BGI.
    SOME Müllerian-Wolffians (Intersex with both halves) Emerge with Neutrois BGI.

    Of the NINE listed, TWO are TYPICAL MAJORITY, and SEVEN are ATYPICAL MINORITY. Of the SEVEN who are Atypical minority, FOUR are MISNAMED ‘TRANS’, as they are simply, naturally, atypically sexed for their GENDER (BGI), that’s all, NONE are really ‘pathological’ or ‘evil/perverts/deluded’.

    Thus:
    While YOU unscientifically believe:

    Müllerian (Vaginal) Sexed Females are the only ones who are REAL FEMALE.
    and
    Wolffian (Penile) Sexed Males are the only ones who are REALLY MALE.

    It turns out that YOU ARE IGNORING the REALITY of NATURAL ATYPICALITY, that:

    Müllerian (Vaginal) Sexed MALES are ALSO REAL MALES (REAL MEN).
    and
    Wolffian (Penile) Sexed FEMALES are ALSO REAL FEMALES (REAL WOMEN).

    ALL you ever got was ‘Sex Education 101′ that a misleading oversimplified for the ‘lay masses’, while doctors get a lot more, say ‘Sex Ed 606′. What I have given you, is a ‘brief’ version of ‘Sex Ed 909′ that MOST doctors NEVER GOT, because the NEWEST information about BGI, could not be included before, but NEW YOUNG generation of doctors are getting ‘some’ of it only now, not all of it.

    It is unfortunate, that many still have to use the term ‘trans’ even in non-pathological terms, such as ‘transgender identity’ or ‘transsexual’.

    Thus, while I SHOW that the Gender Identity is TRULY FEMALE or MALE, it need NOT be referred as being a ‘trans’ Gender Identity, being ‘Trans-Female’ or ‘Trans-Male’. Thus we now have in reality, by using the logical ATYPICAL-Amongst-Atypical model, of Females (Atypical and Typical; both are REAL), and Males (Atypical and Typical; both are REAL).

    Here is an example of research covering BGI (Brain Gender Identity) where the author uses the term ‘transgender identity’, where I instead use ‘Atypical Female Gender Identity’ or ‘Atypical Male Gender Identity’.

    Brain Gender Identity [BGI] – a presentation by Dr Sidney W Ecker, MD FACS (Urologist)(MS Power Point)[2010][Download]:
    http://web.me.com/ceriserichards/TRANSGENDER_CONTINUUM/TRANSGENDER_CONTINUUM.ppt_files/BGI%203.5.5.ppt

    I hope this helps. Most are unaware. Many younger generation women are slowly discovering what I have come across as well, what medical science is uncovering about what ‘sex’ and ‘gender identity’ really are, and what they are not.

  6. TYPO: I copied with the intent to modify the opposite scenario, but forgot.

    THUS, YOUR very own body:
    a) If sufficient Testosterone is supplied high enough at the right time and with the appropriate SENSITIVITY, it will grow a Wolffian (Penile) Sexed body, which is INDEPENDENT of GENDER IDENTITY OUTCOME (see below, why)
    b) If insufficient Testosterone is supplied high enough at the right time and with the appropriate SENSITIVITY, it will grow a Wolffian (Penile) Sexed body, which is INDEPENDENT of GENDER IDENTITY OUTCOME (see below, why)

    SHOULD READ:
    THUS, YOUR very own body:
    a) If sufficient Testosterone is supplied high enough at the right time and with the appropriate SENSITIVITY, it will grow a Wolffian (Penile) Sexed body, which is INDEPENDENT of GENDER IDENTITY OUTCOME (see below, why)
    b) If insufficient Testosterone is NOT supplied high enough at the right time and with the appropriate SENSITIVITY, it will grow a Müllerian (Vaginal) Sexed body, which is INDEPENDENT of GENDER IDENTITY OUTCOME (see below, why)

    I hope you put my comments up in full, plus this ‘typo’.

    It is sad, the world remains in the dark about real sex and real gender being independent as described in my response above.

    Of course, there is even more about ‘differences’ of why genders are so distinct as they are. While sex itself is clearcut ‘sex plumbing’ types, that’s all.

  7. Wow, just skimmed the tip of this post and you’re a terrible person, just thought I’d let you know in case you weren’t already aware. “REAL women” what an absolute piece of biggoted garbage.

    As a transgender women and a feminist you disgust me.

  8. It seems rather hasty to “just skim the tip” of a post and conclude that a writer is a terrible person without having ever met or talked to her.

    Alice, your post seems to be entirely about your feelings.

  9. Ha. “REAL”.
    We are all real. The world isn’t black and white, it is gray. You are just lucky enough to have been born among the majority in terms of sexuality and feel you are special for it. Your lack of understanding is shameful. Shameful. Shameful. Shameful.

  10. On October 12, 2010 I was declined entry to the Canadian Forces. At the time a healthy, emotionally stable, athletic 19 year old. Why was a denied employment you might ask. I am a female to male transexual. Bill c279 is a bill to allow me and many more people the right to work, receive medical care have a home. Not to lurk in bathrooms.

    In the 2.5 years since my right to employment was taken away I have entered the emergency medical services. If I were to be the responder to your call, would you still want me to attend to you? Or would you be worried that I may commit some wrong doing while treating you?

    Transgendered people are all around you, in all walks of life and you would have no idea. Why do we not deserve the same rights as you?

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